Hello Chaos

Ep. 071 Nancy Davis

Episode Summary

In this episode of Hello Chaos, host Jennifer Sutton interviews Nancy Davis, founder of Elite Med Spa in Greenville. They discuss Nancy's journey as a founder and entrepreneur, highlighting the raw and real stories behind her success. The episode is brought to you by OrangeWIP, a multimedia company dedicated to serving founders and entrepreneurs. OrangeWIP provides a one-stop content hub for founders, offering fresh stories, curated calendars, and local roadmaps to navigate entrepreneurial ecosystems. Tune in to hear Nancy's inspiring story and learn how Orange Whip supports founders on their journey to success.

Episode Notes

Nancy Davis is an esthetician and the owner of Elite Med Spa. She has become a national presence in the Hydro facial skin industry and is known for her expertise as a tish esthetician. Nancy's journey from running a landscaping company to transitioning into the med spa industry has shaped her approach to helping and healing others. She emphasizes the importance of self-care, embracing adventure, and creating memories. Nancy's entrepreneurship journey has taught her the value of flexibility and adaptation. She has built her business through word-of-mouth and continues to make a positive impact in the aesthetics field.

Episode Transcription

Ep. 071 Nancy Davis.mp3

SPEAKER_01 Welcome to Hello Chaos, another episode, another week. Hello Chaos is a weekly podcast dedicated to exploring the messy and chaotic minds and lives of founders, entrepreneurs, and innovators. We talk to founders from different industries at different company stages of all shapes and sizes. We love to hear the raw and real and unbiased founder stories and why our mantra is where aha meets oh shit. We drop new episodes every Sunday so help you get ready for the week ahead. Hello Chaos is one of the many resources brought to you by Orange WIP that is Orange WIP for work in progress because that's what we all are. We all are a work in progress. We're never complete Orange WIP is a multimedia company dedicated to serving founders and entrepreneurs across affiliate cities through hyper local media platforms that are designed to inspire encourage and inform and create connections to help founders succeed. Orange WIP is an all-in-one content hub for founders with fresh and engaging stories, curated calendars, and local dynamic roadmaps to navigate these complex local entrepreneurial ecosystems. We've done all the hard work for founders, so they only need to go to one place, our place. Everyone needs a little Orange WIP in their city. My name is Jennifer Sutton. My friends and family, at least some friends, call me JJ. As we'll learn, our guest today, I've known Nancy for several years, and she was like, I didn't know people called you JJ. I was like, well, I haven't gone by JJ professionally, but my family and friends from way back have always called me JJ. But I'm your host and founder of Orange WIP, and we have today on our podcast Nancy Davis with Elite Med Spa out of Greenville. Nancy really has is becoming more of a national presence in the Hydro facial skin as the tish esthetician Did I say that right? Yeah, I was stumble on that word Yes, yes, that's a little up the face the face But Nancy welcome to our lovely podcast Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 Thanks for having me JJ. Yeah

SPEAKER_01 And you were like, I didn't know that was your name. And so Nancy, for everyone, Nancy and I met in 2018. We participated in a minority business accelerator together. And you were in really at the very start of that program, you were kind of in a transition of, you want to tell that story of the transition? Okay.

SPEAKER_00 Well, actually I didn't transition until the end.

SPEAKER_01 Well, that program helped you, right?

SPEAKER_00 Yes. Yeah. Yes. I didn't know I needed to transition. Well, I kind of knew I needed to transition, but it kind of led me on that path.

SPEAKER_01 So your first company. Yes. The one that I met you through of why you were in the program. What was that?

SPEAKER_00 Down to earth of the upstate. It was a landscaping company.

SPEAKER_01 And why did you, so you went to the accelerator and what made you decide to transition?

SPEAKER_00 Well, through mentorship and I kind of was just holding on to this business because it was my late husband's business. Well, it was our business, but it was really his baby and what he had a passion for doing. And through that, I learned that this was not necessarily my passion. Right.

SPEAKER_01 Yeah. Our cohort kind of wrapped around you and we're like, okay, Nancy, you know, and I think our, the, a lot of the coaches, um, helped you even figure out how to exit.

SPEAKER_00 Right.

SPEAKER_01 Yes. Um, and then jumpstart, I don't, was it like six? It was just a few months. I felt like maybe to you, it was a longer, but I felt like, and then boom, you were like, I'm doing this. I'm going to go into, uh, aesthetics. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 Yeah. So yeah, I was running both companies. I was building, starting the aesthetics business, med spa business. And while I was closing the other business, the landscaping business. So. How did that go? Yeah. Very busy.

SPEAKER_01 Very challenging. Was it, was it hard to let go of the other one?

SPEAKER_00 It was very, it was hard, but, um, I think that that transition helped me kind of focus on something else. So it was, so it gave me a path.

SPEAKER_01 So now you've started, uh, the med spa. What's been this, what's been this journey? Cause now it's been what, three, four years? Maybe four to five years. Four or five years. Okay. Wow. It's 18.

SPEAKER_00 Yeah. 23.

SPEAKER_01 Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 End of 23. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 Thanks, Nancy. We have 80 days left in there.

SPEAKER_00 And we went through COVID. Yeah. So, yeah. Transitioning has been really like more I think that it's been more of a journey for myself as well as for a business. I think it's been more of a personal journey too. How so? Kind of like a healing journey. And I think that it's kind of transitioned into healing others too. Um, I think aesthetics is, is kind of, that's, that's my spin on it is to heal, to help and heal others. So it's kind of helped since I went through a healing journey, I feel like it's kind of. Kind of a full circle thing. Like I'm able to help others too.

SPEAKER_01 Yeah. So, so you do the, you know, you offer all like the, the skin and all that, but then you, you've also gotten a yoga. You're getting into it too. I'm a yoga instructor. Yoga instructor. I have yoga at sauna. That's right, the infrared sauna and then sound healing. So talk about those kind of aspects of kind of going beyond just the the med spa, because that's not typical.

SPEAKER_00 Right. So I'm just trying, you know, you're just trying to find your own spin on things. So Just from having people come and lay on my bed, everybody wants to talk to you. So how can you help someone through that? I mean, not only are you improving and helping them with their skin, but that helps your inward self too. So through touch, touch is healing. Not many people, sometimes people don't get touch. You don't know what they're faced with on a day to day. So that helps. And And prior, when I had my landscaping company too, I have like 10 plus years in the health food industry. So that kind of all comes together, um, through healing and nutrition and, and that type of thing.

SPEAKER_01 Just like holistic whole body. Yes. So what's been the most rewarding part of your journey?

SPEAKER_00 I think like meeting like people like you, I think, through my workshops i'm just kind of creating like a family and Community I think that's my rewarding part.

SPEAKER_01 And you're traveling all over for these workshops.

SPEAKER_00 Yes, we had a meetup. I'm with SkinCeuticals. I'm a SkinCeuticals professional and it's a, you know, a worldwide company. And I've just educating, just trying to educate myself so I can educate others and they feel comfortable.

SPEAKER_01 Right. Because you're, I mean, you are, you've been traveling all over for these, those workshops. What do you like most about that?

SPEAKER_00 The traveling part? All of the above. Yes. Finding tips and tricks. I mean, I feel like I'm fresh in the industry, but maybe not because I work with people that are 20 years. You know, you work with everybody from all over and they have different industries like dermatology. You learn from not just med spas, doctor's offices. dermatology, spas, just regular spas in general.

SPEAKER_01 Because your dad's a plastic surgeon, right? He is. Yeah. Does he help in the bit? Like early on, I know he was more involved in supporting you and your TikToks were quite funny.

SPEAKER_00 We need to bring him back. We need to bring him back. We'll see if I can bring it back.

SPEAKER_01 So if you can encourage Dr. Weep to come in. He's still here.

SPEAKER_00 He is? He's still here and he's in the background. He's trying to retire, right? He's injecting. Yeah, he needs to live life, right? We all need to live life.

SPEAKER_01 Um, so, but he's still doing injecting, but he's not doing, he's not doing plastic surgery anymore. I know. I wish he could do something with my, with my one eye and mine. Um, so what, so what do you think has been the most challenging part? I mean, not necessarily letting go of the, uh, beyond just letting go of, of your late husband's business, but now starting this new journey, what's been the most challenging?

SPEAKER_00 Gosh, I think it's all challenging. I think on a daily basis is challenging. Um, so yesterday I was, I went for a hike cause I had a break in the day. And I think just trying to find time for yourself sometimes can be challenging. You can get sucked into the day to day and you really have to take a break for yourself and reassess. Right.

SPEAKER_01 That's right. That's a, I've always said that I need, I always need a little Nancy in my life. And my inspiration of Nancy, because I don't do that. I'm not, I find it very challenging to find time for myself and focus on myself. So I do like it when you go, I haven't seen you in six months, Jennifer, and you need to come lay on my table. Take a break or go take a walk with me. So I, you know, always have that, that community kind of reaches out and knows of, let's, let's go, let's just go take a walk around the swamp rabbit trail or get on the table and let's do a facial. Cause I don't do that very well at all.

SPEAKER_00 Yeah, that's part of the well, the healing and wellness journey, right? Like, when I started when I switched from the landscaping business to the aesthetics business, I kind of set like a calendar, mental calendar for myself. Like, what would that look like? Marketing Monday, like you've got to structure yourself. Marketing Monday, wellness Wednesday. I would just have kind of a go-to, you know, for my structure in my week.

SPEAKER_01 like a, you know, a daily theme? Yes. Okay. And then what else do you, what else do you do to, to, um, take a break? Cause you know, we're this month in our, in the Orange WIP additions, it's all about founder mental health and especially founders and owners and, you know, uh, leaders of companies. We, we do not do good self care. We are not good self-care people. What other advice do you have of just, is it just self-discipline? What if you don't have self-discipline for that?

SPEAKER_00 You've got to schedule it. You've got to make it, put it in your schedule.

SPEAKER_01 Is that what, and that's what you did? And then I know we have our, then we have our get togethers.

SPEAKER_00 Yes, definitely meeting in like with other entrepreneurs or other estheticians, like just kind of hashing out. the issues. Yeah, hello chaos, right?

SPEAKER_01 Chaos, how do you welcome it? So Nancy and I have a shared friend, I'm not going to say her name on air, she'll get mad if she ever listened to this episode, but she is, she also transitioned out of her company and into another space that Nancy and I have always, we're fascinated by it because we don't quite get it, but we're, but we know it's important because it's all about healing and wellness and mental health. And her title is the belonging director. And we're like, what does that mean? She's like, whatever you want it to mean. We want to belong. Everybody wants to belong. And that's true. It's like, well, describe what your role is. And she's like, it's all about belonging. So anyway. But I'm going to tell, so Nancy's been an inspiration of something I've tried to incorporate. It's not really taking a break or self-discipline, but it kind of helped me structure, I would say my year and, and different activities with the kids. It was the, do you remember I was telling you this and you were like, how did I inspire? I'm like, because you get, you do this. and I don't think you even realize you do it but I kind of broke it down it was like the the six four one rule of I call it the Nancy rule the Nancy lesson for me and it was so Look at your year, and especially if you have kids, and you just became an empty nester, so we're going to talk about that. So every other month, plan some kind of like mini adventure. of things that you haven't done maybe it's you haven't gone up to I mean real simple thing maybe you haven't taken the kids to like an apple orchard or to a corn maze if it's around you know Halloween or you know taking a bike ride just or maybe horseback riding just something roller skating bowling whatever, like little mini adventures that you kind of plan out and do these like, you know, every other month to do these mini events. But it's activities that you haven't done to allow, you know, to let, not just for you to maybe feel like a kid again, but to do something with your kids. And then, so that's every other month and then once a quarter, do something that's a little bit more, um, a bigger adventure. Maybe that's a trip like, you know, over the summer. That was my, you know, we went and, um, We went to the Outer Banks and to Ocracoke, and we stayed on an Airbnb sailboat that we've never done. And that was a week. It was kind of our quarterly adventure. And then this quarter coming up, I'm going to tomorrow. Eloise and I are going to go see Sophie in New York. We're going to do a New York and Philadelphia little journey. Good for you. Taking my youngest and we're meeting up with her oldest, you know, oldest sibling and we're going to have a little mini adventure. So, and then Thanksgiving, I mean, even though it's kind of, I'm hitting two in one quarter, I'm booking them, I'm booking them up. But then we're doing, making them up. My side of the family, we're going to Arizona for Thanksgiving and doing a, my maiden name is Johns, hence the J, J is my maiden name is Jennifer Johns. So the Johns family is meeting up for a epic 10 week long adventure in, in, in Arizona. So, but those are, you know,

SPEAKER_00 You know, I feel like we get so stuck in routine. It just makes it more exciting. We're supposed to be enjoying life, right? That's right.

SPEAKER_01 And this was like, because I, I get jealous of you and this is okay. So this is why I started to come up and I'm like, I would watch your Instagram, your stories. And I was like, you are going everywhere. You're trying, this was like 2020, 2021.

SPEAKER_00 I was traveling a lot then.

SPEAKER_01 And you were traveling a lot. And some stuff you were like, Jennifer, I'm not there. Those are fake. I'm just like, those are my inspiration photos. I thought you were really at all these beautiful beaches. That was me manifesting. You were like, I'm manifesting. Like, God, she was in Charleston. Now she's in like Mumbai. And she's now in, you know, It was like, you had beaches from everywhere, all over the globe. And I reached out to you like, what are you doing? You are traveling like a mad woman. You're like, well, I am traveling. But everything you're seeing on my Instagram is not real. Those are all dream trips. And I was like, oh, I need to be more like me and think about those things. So that's where I was like, OK. So it started making me go, I need to do these every other month, these little mini adventures. and then do things that I've never done before or never done with the kids before. And then quarterly, these little, you know, more little epic adventures, these little bigger, like, trips. You know, so I'm even, like, trying to plan out next year of, like, what's going to be our big, you know, these quarterly trips. And then the one, because it's 6-4-1, and then it's, like, what's the one thing that's going to make the year, like, 2022 is when I launched Hello, Hello Chaos and Orange WIP. So that was like my, you know, bright, you know, 2023, I'm trying to figure out what this year will be. But, but I'm even trying to think of like, what's next year gonna, like, at the end of the year, what am I going to say? 2024 marked this year for. And so when you look back, I can go, okay, I had six mini adventures, I had four quarterly trips, and I did one big epic thing that made and marked my year. I don't know. So that's where, I mean, I've written a book this year. I don't know. I didn't know this. Yeah. Well, I was a chapter in a book, but it was a start of, I could write a book, like a full book, but I was a part of a published book. I was a chapter.

SPEAKER_00 So maybe that could be your thing.

SPEAKER_01 That could be my next year. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 I try not to, like, I think of goals and, you know, sometimes you have to pivot and shift. That's right. It doesn't go as planned. Never.

SPEAKER_01 Never. Never. Never. So. Never. No. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 That's my take on it.

SPEAKER_01 Hey, so we've got somebody that popped in. Kevin Weir. Hey, he said, Hey, Jen. Hey, Nancy. Oh, you know, Kevin, he's with the SBDC, Small Business Development Council.

SPEAKER_00 Okay. So, yeah, I don't think that anything goes as planned. And then you have to pivot and shift. And that's a big thing, especially as an entrepreneur.

SPEAKER_01 That's right. And you're and you're even looking at, like, what's the next horizon of of you're kind of becoming known in the SkinCeuticals community. And you're like, Jennifer, there's opportunities, you know, to go beyond.

SPEAKER_00 So there's more. Yeah. Once you get into a business, you don't realize how many more opportunities, how many what all is involved, you know. As far as esthetician goes, I mean, there's just so much education wise or with different businesses, with different skincare lines, with different lasers. There's just a lot of opportunity out there.

SPEAKER_01 And then traveling, you know, yoga events and workshops, teaching workshops and doing those things. Is that what, is that what your plans are is, is trying to do more of those things?

SPEAKER_00 Yeah, I see that as a goal, as a future goal. I'm trying to navigate through how I can make this, that happen.

SPEAKER_01 Manifesting. Yes. As you're, as you've now, Empty Nestor, so both of your kids are now in college. How is that going?

SPEAKER_00 Well, I thought it was going to go a little differently as things do. So I'm trying to refocus. And when you're talking about going on a trip, because I was like, well, I'll go on a trip as soon as my kids leave that nest. So we say, right. But it's been taking a little bit longer. And I'm actually going to go, I had an idea to do, like you said, the yoga trainings and so forth, but that just hasn't come to fruition. Like I plan. So, um, I'm actually going to go to Portugal in a couple of weeks.

SPEAKER_01 Oh, you are going to do that trip. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 Um, so maybe why Portugal? Oh, it's beautiful. I've never been there. Have you been there?

SPEAKER_01 No, I've not traveled anywhere. I'm a sheltered, I'm a poor sheltered person.

SPEAKER_00 Portugal is great. This will be my first solo trip.

SPEAKER_01 Oh, no kids, no family. Yes. Well, that'll be, you're pretty good about that. So how are you mentally preparing for that? I'm just going. You're just going. Packing the bags out of here.

SPEAKER_00 And we'll see from there. But no, this is just a journey I want to take, you know, and try and incorporate some of the wellness aspect into it, see what's out there, see how I can incorporate it into my travel and maybe my work one day.

SPEAKER_01 That's right. So you are manifesting your rune reading. Yes. Okay. So for our listeners out there, so I got into, if anyone knows anything about the ancient rune symbols, the R-U-N-E, Nancy and a friend of ours, we all did kind of these rune readings and it was interesting of how it literally read all of our personalities very differently and on point, especially for where we are in our stage of life and mental uh setting Did you say capacity? Yeah And but it was so dead on and yours was all about you know horizon like the travel everything must be you know earthly bound and flow and um healing and wellness um and taking those those leaps of adventure and and doing those things and Mine was all in like creativity and just, you know, staying true to the path, not being discouraged, which was like it was totally reading my discouragement. And then our other friend was, it was all around her. She's going through, you know, a journey of her own and it like totally read that journey. So it was, that was fascinating. We'll have to do another room reading when you get back to manifest what's happening in 2024, like what's going to be our epic, what's going to make up next year. So going back to kind of the entrepreneur journey, if you could change two things about your business today, whether it was, hey, I wish this wouldn't have happened, or I want this to happen. So on either side of the coin, what two things would you change?

SPEAKER_00 This current business? Yes, current business. I would change, I would probably structure things a little different, which I've been thinking about doing is adding, instead of being solo, adding more, adding more to my services. By that I mean I do have some extra rooms here. I could incorporate more wellness or more services into my space. So I would shift a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 So like bringing on partners or selling the rooms or the services? Correct. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 And then actually some things that I've been thinking about focusing on too, and I need to really follow through with, is bringing that whole wellness kind of together, focusing on everything as a whole, I kind of guide people to take certain supplements, guide people to, well, skin regimen. Oh, oh, yeah. Yeah. And, and other things that I can offer as a whole.

SPEAKER_01 Are you going to, or do you, I know you're testing the sound healing next week. Is that something that you would be looking at? Cause no one really offers that in our, in our area.

SPEAKER_00 Oh, there's quite a few, but yes, sound healing. Yes, I could offer that more.

SPEAKER_01 Describe what that is, because I don't think a lot of people know what that is or maybe they do. It's new to me.

SPEAKER_00 It's crystal bowls and they have different chakras and it opens up just It's kind of hard to describe, but it's really relaxing.

SPEAKER_01 Well, you did it, you do it during, um, the facials, but this is like a room you're that you're laying only only. And that's all you're doing is listening to the, the, the crystal bowl.

SPEAKER_00 It's kind of like a meditation.

SPEAKER_01 Yeah. Which is going to be difficult for me to, uh,

SPEAKER_00 You'd be surprised.

SPEAKER_01 Really? Yes. I trust you. It'll be good. I went to one when we were in the Outer Banks, and I was like, Nancy, they have sound healing. It was good. I got through it, but it was hard for me to sit still for that long without falling asleep.

SPEAKER_00 Well, that's good. That's you want to be relaxed.

SPEAKER_01 I know. I thought I would fall asleep, but I was awake. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. Um, so if you, so, okay, I'm going to ask you on the other business, on the landscape business, what two things would you have changed?

SPEAKER_00 I would have sold my business. I would have sold the business when my husband told me we need to sell this business.

SPEAKER_01 Why did you want to sell it? It was his baby.

SPEAKER_00 It was his baby, but he achieved what he wanted to achieve. He overcame a lot through his lifetime and it was able to have a business, be successful. And he was happy with that.

SPEAKER_01 So he was if you wish you would have exited it with him and he could have seen that sooner. And then what else would you have changed?

SPEAKER_00 besides that just that just that just that holding on there was no really purpose of that i guess i guess um holding on um i guess i was trying to prove something maybe

SPEAKER_01 You mean after he passed and held on to it? Well, I'm sure, you know, it was your kids that, you know, your kids were younger and that was the business. That was the family business. So, was just the emotional letting go. How did the coaches, because I didn't, I mean, we kind of all sat from afar. We knew that the coaches and the mentors were helping you with that. What was, how did they support you? What was the advice they were giving you to convince you or to help you with that journey of that exit?

SPEAKER_00 Well, I mean, it's really like you've got to take a hard look at the numbers in any business, right? Right. You got to take a hard look at the numbers and you got to realize that is this serving you as an individual? And if it's not serving you, then it's time to let go and to come up with a definite deadline.

SPEAKER_01 Is that what they, the advice? Did they look at your books and go, Nancy, come on?

SPEAKER_00 Or, or so how did you? They did not look at my books, but we did have that whole, you know, financial, um,

SPEAKER_01 the financial literacy, whatever module.

SPEAKER_00 Yeah. And you don't want to put yourself, you know, in a situation. So either you scale up or you let go and you have to come up with a definite date.

SPEAKER_01 So what was the date that you gave yourself? Because that was what we did that course from January to July 2018. Did you give yourself like August? Okay. So during the class, they were, you know, it was literally August. Oh, wow. And then how did they, what else did they tell you? Am I like, I wouldn't have even know how to navigate of to, to close and put closure to that. Cause you had people, you had equipment, you had, I mean, it had been a business for 15 years, 15 years. So what was that like? What was that process?

SPEAKER_00 So it's either you close the business and sell all your equipment or you sell it. And I had some people interested, but I weighed out my options and I was going to make just as much if I sold the equipment. So when I reached that date, I just made the decision.

SPEAKER_01 And you're like, OK, I'm selling the equipment, selling the operations, closing it down. What did you do? Did you did you celebrate? Did you go home and cry?

SPEAKER_00 Like what was the what was the I wanted to take a break. But that didn't happen because I was open because I was opening up Elite Med Spa.

SPEAKER_01 Yeah. I mean, did you literally do it like right after that?

SPEAKER_00 I was doing it while selling the equipment.

SPEAKER_01 Oh my goodness. And see, I don't remember that. I just remembered that you were going through the closure of the landscape business.

SPEAKER_00 No, at the same time. So it was the same time. Okay. Building the other one as I was closing one.

SPEAKER_01 So what was the journey of, okay, now I got to open up this? Well, it was open. Oh, because it was your dad's?

SPEAKER_00 No, I started this from scratch. Oh, okay. I started Elite Med Spa from scratch. The journey of opening up this business was I you know it wasn't that much I used to work at his office and help him some so. I had. some leads from his old clients. And I just put together a mass email for that. And that's all we pretty much have done, gone from word of mouth. He was in the industry for 40 plus years. So that gave us a good start. And we just have been building ever since, just word of mouth.

SPEAKER_01 But you had to get training on those.

SPEAKER_00 I had to get training. I had to get equipment. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 Esthetician license. Building your website and all the operations and stuff. What was the hardest part?

SPEAKER_00 I think the hardest part is just being confident in the knowledge that I have. So that's why I've been doing so many educational journeys. I mean, you think, oh, anybody could give a facial or do a facial, but really it's more involved than that.

SPEAKER_01 Yeah. Yes, I do now because I watch your tutorials. And then you go on TikTok and people are like, oh, you can do this yourself. And I'm like, no, I cannot do this. No, it's not a good idea. It is not a good idea. It will damage your skin. So what advice would you give to other entrepreneurs who are, you know, trying to figure out what their journey is or, you know, what's your top three pieces of advice for founders?

SPEAKER_00 What are you passionate about? Don't do it just for money because, you know, that will come with passion and focus on yourself too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 That's right. Self-care. Put some discipline. Schedule it out. Yes, Nancy. I've scheduled my big picture one, my 6-4-1. We're working towards that. Now I need to bring it down to the daily. How about if I work monthly?

SPEAKER_00 Honestly, I live day to day.

SPEAKER_01 Yeah, but you're really good about it. You're like, I've got yoga, I'm doing this, I'm doing that. I'm like, you are always on the health trip and always trying the next best thing and giving advice. And so yeah, I look to you to keep me grounded or pull me out behind my desk and go, you just need to come take a walk.

SPEAKER_00 And one more thing is like do uncomfortable things. Do something uncomfortable. That's what we learned. That's been my big thing this year.

SPEAKER_01 That was, uh, well, that was the, you know, the Tobyism, um, that we learned in, in our class was get, get uncomfortable with being, get comfortable with being uncomfortable. Yes. And, and enter in that, you know, Enter in that space. Don't be afraid. Yes. Yeah. I need to do that more. That's with my little, my many epics, my many journeys.

SPEAKER_00 Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 All right. We are out of time, Nancy. Um, is there, okay? So, how do you want people to connect with you, and learn more about you or your business? Um, how do you want people to reach out?

SPEAKER_00 Well, I'm on Instagram. Yeah. Elite Med Spa and Laser Center. They can find me there. Okay. Um, that's pretty much my biggest avenue, right?

SPEAKER_01 It's Instagram. You gotta watch her, gotta watch her videos. And hopefully, she'll bring her dad back on, some fun TikToks.

SPEAKER_00 Oh gosh, we gotta bring him back.

SPEAKER_01 Yeah, he is, he's super cute. Dr. Adeem. He's so funny. He's the star. He is the star. We love him. Well, very good. I'm so glad that you got to, I know you were nervous to come on the podcast. It wasn't that bad.

SPEAKER_00 Thank you for having me. It wasn't bad. I'm just, no, not at all. Not at all.

SPEAKER_01 I don't know. All right. So this podcast, well, it drops, uh, every Sunday. Again, we try to prepare our founders for the week. Um, sign up for the weekly whip. That's our newsletter that also drops in your inbox every Sunday night. It's a one-minute read that tells you who's the latest podcast guest. What are your upcoming deadlines and events that you should go to in your community? Also, this podcast is available wherever you listen to your podcast, so if you don't subscribe to Orange WIP, at least subscribe to the Hello Chaos podcast and listen to us and share like, and comment. We love to hear from you. If you want to be a guest or want to sponsor this podcast, reach out to us at hello at orangewhip.com. That's orangewip.com. And we would love to hear from you. This month's edition, again, in Orange WIP, it's so great. We're talking about mental health for founders and wellness and the importance of self-care. I need to read these folks' advice and take it because they're all saying a lot of the stuff that You know, Nancy's saying is discipline, schedule it, take a break, make time for rest. You need to recharge and, you know, get your energy, reignite. It's really important for founders to do that. And yeah, we're gearing up for our November issue, which is Talent Recruitment and Retention, all about workforce development. That's fun. That's fun topics. So that's all folks and look forward to it. Did I miss anything, Kristen? Did I get it? Did I get it all? All right. Perfect.